...everytime I plant a seed, he said kill them before they grow...
of course the outcome for blacks in America is not the same....comparison are futile...but how else do you make people aware that prejudices of all kinds have a common root... feelings of inferiority placed upon any individual creates a need to feel superior, man over woman, protestant over jew, white over black...the feeling of inferiority that created the need for prejudice is the same...
but the consequences for those considered "black" have been more severe. Patriarchy was invented (I believe) by men not selected to be mates; the E-U's conquest of the world of the world was because they had been left so unenlightened they could overcome their feeling only by attempting to make the more culturally enlightened succumb to their "superiority.
Witness the oh so enlightened John Locke telling all of his E-A compatriots that everyone had an inviolable right to their own property and that was the point of the social contract, but those unenlightened Natives (extend to rest of world) in America had no right to their property because they didn't understand they owned their property so it wasn't really their property, so in essence, that made not only their property, but their selves becoming subject to being property.
Well now they are "enlightened, you say you made more money that E-A women who criticized, how very enlightened you have become, what the hell does that matter? That you are not as much property as George Stinney? No you are not saying that anymore than I am offended when people tell me I'm dumb because I dropped out of high school and can't possibly know as much as the educated .
I did graduate from college, I researched, and in one instance entirely wrote 7 PHD theses. I have over 400 hours of non-credited post-grad credits I didn't choose to pursue as a post-grad degree.
But the PHD doesn't become superior just because they have a PHD if they only pursued it to be superior out of feelings of inferiority.
So (I believe) the desire to be superior is rooted in the same inferiority.
But the development of the actions against "black" Americans (since you reverted to the word in your post) is not based on any sensibility in its veniality but on an entire educational culture based on factless maintenance of stereotypes that attempt to reinforce those stereotypes by continually to the other side of the tracks without any way, no matter their income, their status, their education onto the other side of the tracks, because that educational culture of America is so afraid of the truth that all of their facts are not true. And so, even the "unprejudiced" E-A's become imbibed into the culture they are trying to rebuke (including myself). So the Thom Hartman's can rebuke other whites for their prejudice but they (we, I) can't experience the situation that place George Stinney and the very cultured John Coltrane as anything but the same negation of their humanity as if all blacks are a singular piece of fabric.
Women can own slaves; Jews can own slaves; even Cherokees owned slaves. But the owner is always owned by what he owns and that I'd what the E-A can't abide and so he places the black American into a life-experience attempting to negate that his attempt to own black-Americans as forced him into a dependency on black-Americans.
So of course the experience cannot be akin to other prejudices, because it is a prejudice born of attempting to negate not just one's complex of inferiority, but an attempt to deny the E-A's survived and only continue to survive in this nation by "educating" themselves into ignorance because of that dependency of existence, which being dependent upon, means being lesser than, and attempting to fool themselves into a mastership that treats George Stinney's life and John Coltrane's talent as not something upon which every E-A is dependent and could not survive without.
Thank you for an education beyond any I’ve experienced in all my many years. Having attended all-white schools and lived with the white and black water fountains and restrooms, I have many unpleasant memories. I believed that my knowledge of the intense cruelty and disgustingness of slavery was extensive, but I was wrong. My knowledge of the extraordinary depth of our cruelty to support our self-interest fell quite short.
The videos were also educational. A strong mother? Beating up your son during a protest in public. Certainly, other words would be more appropriate. Perhaps abusive.
And the cop goes far beyond the job of subduing someone violating the law. How about handcuffing instead of trying to beat her to death? Then, seeing the video you have to investigate to realize that this man can’t be a peace officer. Perhaps it doesn’t count unless the victim dies.
I’m embarrassed to admit I’ve never heard of George Stinney even knowing about the hundreds, probably thousands of lynchings that we choose to just put behind us. Perhaps I didn’t learn about him because of attending all-white schools, but even the mixing of schools has changed nothing.
Many believe that things are changing, and that they will change. I’m not among those. I dislike repeating myself, but change and forgiveness is not within my realm until a vast majority of us can own our shit. Until then, change is a fantasy.
If I could have "liked" this comment a thousand times, I would have. It is quite possibly the most memorable I have ever received not only because of its unadulterated candor and intellectual honesty, but who it comes from. In fact, I was wondering, as I wrote the piece, "is B.B. going to catch my adaptation of his sage and simple advice "own your shit?"
You'd best believe when it was incorporated into the article, I was thinking of you, Sir.
...everytime I plant a seed, he said kill them before they grow...
of course the outcome for blacks in America is not the same....comparison are futile...but how else do you make people aware that prejudices of all kinds have a common root... feelings of inferiority placed upon any individual creates a need to feel superior, man over woman, protestant over jew, white over black...the feeling of inferiority that created the need for prejudice is the same...
but the consequences for those considered "black" have been more severe. Patriarchy was invented (I believe) by men not selected to be mates; the E-U's conquest of the world of the world was because they had been left so unenlightened they could overcome their feeling only by attempting to make the more culturally enlightened succumb to their "superiority.
Witness the oh so enlightened John Locke telling all of his E-A compatriots that everyone had an inviolable right to their own property and that was the point of the social contract, but those unenlightened Natives (extend to rest of world) in America had no right to their property because they didn't understand they owned their property so it wasn't really their property, so in essence, that made not only their property, but their selves becoming subject to being property.
Well now they are "enlightened, you say you made more money that E-A women who criticized, how very enlightened you have become, what the hell does that matter? That you are not as much property as George Stinney? No you are not saying that anymore than I am offended when people tell me I'm dumb because I dropped out of high school and can't possibly know as much as the educated .
I did graduate from college, I researched, and in one instance entirely wrote 7 PHD theses. I have over 400 hours of non-credited post-grad credits I didn't choose to pursue as a post-grad degree.
But the PHD doesn't become superior just because they have a PHD if they only pursued it to be superior out of feelings of inferiority.
So (I believe) the desire to be superior is rooted in the same inferiority.
But the development of the actions against "black" Americans (since you reverted to the word in your post) is not based on any sensibility in its veniality but on an entire educational culture based on factless maintenance of stereotypes that attempt to reinforce those stereotypes by continually to the other side of the tracks without any way, no matter their income, their status, their education onto the other side of the tracks, because that educational culture of America is so afraid of the truth that all of their facts are not true. And so, even the "unprejudiced" E-A's become imbibed into the culture they are trying to rebuke (including myself). So the Thom Hartman's can rebuke other whites for their prejudice but they (we, I) can't experience the situation that place George Stinney and the very cultured John Coltrane as anything but the same negation of their humanity as if all blacks are a singular piece of fabric.
Women can own slaves; Jews can own slaves; even Cherokees owned slaves. But the owner is always owned by what he owns and that I'd what the E-A can't abide and so he places the black American into a life-experience attempting to negate that his attempt to own black-Americans as forced him into a dependency on black-Americans.
So of course the experience cannot be akin to other prejudices, because it is a prejudice born of attempting to negate not just one's complex of inferiority, but an attempt to deny the E-A's survived and only continue to survive in this nation by "educating" themselves into ignorance because of that dependency of existence, which being dependent upon, means being lesser than, and attempting to fool themselves into a mastership that treats George Stinney's life and John Coltrane's talent as not something upon which every E-A is dependent and could not survive without.
Quite well said.
ps-correct me if I am wrong, but that is the "truth" I feel you are trying to tell us, though I do not write as eloquently.
Thank you for an education beyond any I’ve experienced in all my many years. Having attended all-white schools and lived with the white and black water fountains and restrooms, I have many unpleasant memories. I believed that my knowledge of the intense cruelty and disgustingness of slavery was extensive, but I was wrong. My knowledge of the extraordinary depth of our cruelty to support our self-interest fell quite short.
The videos were also educational. A strong mother? Beating up your son during a protest in public. Certainly, other words would be more appropriate. Perhaps abusive.
And the cop goes far beyond the job of subduing someone violating the law. How about handcuffing instead of trying to beat her to death? Then, seeing the video you have to investigate to realize that this man can’t be a peace officer. Perhaps it doesn’t count unless the victim dies.
I’m embarrassed to admit I’ve never heard of George Stinney even knowing about the hundreds, probably thousands of lynchings that we choose to just put behind us. Perhaps I didn’t learn about him because of attending all-white schools, but even the mixing of schools has changed nothing.
Many believe that things are changing, and that they will change. I’m not among those. I dislike repeating myself, but change and forgiveness is not within my realm until a vast majority of us can own our shit. Until then, change is a fantasy.
If I could have "liked" this comment a thousand times, I would have. It is quite possibly the most memorable I have ever received not only because of its unadulterated candor and intellectual honesty, but who it comes from. In fact, I was wondering, as I wrote the piece, "is B.B. going to catch my adaptation of his sage and simple advice "own your shit?"
You'd best believe when it was incorporated into the article, I was thinking of you, Sir.